This is a DooM .LMP "Competition" Entry - Please forward it... E2M2-016.TXT E2M2-016.ZIP E2M2-016.LMP - Ultra Violence Recorded using "The Ultimate DooM" DooM -PlayDemo with Ultimate DooM OR DooM -PlayDemo with DooM Ver. 1.9 (?) DooM - Ep.2 Mi.2 - Containment Area - Using Kai's Great Jump Kills 0% (Items 2) Secrets 0% and Time 00:16 (Whoa!!! :-) ----- Description :-) During an e-mail discussion on how to remove (or at least weaken) "some guy from the US" ;-), who recently started taking over DooM entries quietly but continuously [ Hi, Wade! :-) ], Kai mentioned that it was possible to do E2M2 without any key, utilizing a jump that he discovered together with Dasa. Soooo ... hint taken, thanx, -recorded, done! :-) Full credits to Kai and Dasa for always finding a trick to finish a level the way it was definitely *NOT* meant to be done! ;-) Meanwhile, I tend to believe that if DooM was the "Jump & Run" type of game, Kai's position in the Compet-N list would be Demonlord's current one ;-) ... also watch Kai's E3M6 & MAP06 entries for jumps that were not meant to be possible! :-) [ .BAT stuff snipped for briefness - it was getting old anyway! ] Thomas aka ZlatkO ThE GoDFatheR thomas_zajic@hp-austria-om1.om.hp.com